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Addressing Knowledge
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Tolkien characterizes the quest for knowledge with ambivalence in LOTR's. What are the various ways Tolkien presents the quest for gaining knowledge in the novels? -- Edited by Halobella85 on Monday 1st of November 2010 11:59:16 PM
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More , More , Encore
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My ding a ling goes bring bring bring Imagine that you could talk to the man....JRR That you could corner the man and invoke him to flesh out something about the works... Oh I don't know...there's so much ! For me it would be to embelish the tale of Beren and Luthien. It underpins the LOR and in it's own scal...
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Could Frodo
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Hey ho Could Frodo have "commanded" the Nazgul ...at eathertop on eraing the ring my key isn't orking...hmmmm
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What if ?
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The quest is on a knife edge........ Well what if.....what if Butterbur delivered his letter What if Gandalf had not met with Thorin whilst pondering Dragons What if ..what if what if. The works often focussed down into a single moment, a singularity where further events were dependant. What were th...
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Doomed at birth?
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Okay, about Túrin. Man with many names and many different episodes in his life. Now i would like to ask your opinions about why his life was what it was. Was his life doomed from the beginning (Morgoth's curse) and everything went like it was already planned? And then other thing concerning this same ma...
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"The Complete Guide to Middle-earth" VS. "The Complete Tolkien Companion"
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I have a question. As a matter of fact, I've been pondering this for a very long time, so actually I don't know why I did not seek an answer until now. I bought some time ago JEA Tyler's 'The Complete Tolkien Companion', which is sort of an encyclopedia of Tolkien's world, with a large number of names which...
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Miruvor
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I know there was a Miruvóre, the Nectar of the Valar, made from flowers in the gardens of Yavanna, and served it at the festivals of the Valar. I am trying to find out if Miruvor might have the same origin, or a similar origin and if it was there in the First Age, before the Noldor came back to Middle-earth. I...
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The Valar and People
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I have a small question... I was wondering if the people of Middle-Earth (Men, Dwarves, Hobbits, And the average Elf) knows about the Valar? If they do - do they know very Valar are only major ones? More specifically do they know of Yavanna? I look forward to replies.
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Eowyn and Ioreth
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As I have said many times before, I believe the reason that Tolkien's Lord of the Rings series is so popular because no matter who you are, where your from or what manner of temperment you are, you can find at least one character to attach to or relate to. That being said, I myself, being as concieted as I a...
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The Rainbow Cleft
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Anyone with KW Fonstad's book note that there is no seeming gap through the mountains from the Sea into Hithlum and Dor-Lomin, and so no passage, if not over mountains at least, except through the Gate of the Noldor and the Rainbow Cleft? But compare to (Christopher) Tolkien's map and (it seems to...
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Transmission And Authorship
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I decided to make a thread concerning the imagined transmission and authorship of the texts, and post some findings in one place (and in a place I can more easily locate by name as time goes by). One problem here is Tolkien's changing mind. In the early 1950s JRRT still held to the idea that (ver...
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betraying Gondolin
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Sorry about the length! Maeglin is usually noted as betraying the location of Gondolin in that he seemingly gave the needed details to allow an assault to take place. If I recall correctly, in earlier versions of the Túrin saga, Húrin's release did not reveal the location of Gondolin in any measure,...
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Dagor Dagorath
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can anyone tell me more about Dagor Dagorath (battle of the end of the world)?
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Feanor vs Galadriel
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Ding ding Round One So who was the greatest of the First Born ? I'm putting an argument forward for.....Feanor. He achieved something that could not be replicated by even the Valar ! He had a greater effect on Arda than Galadriel. Long will Mandos keep his spirit...aye and for good reason. But who was gr...
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Religion and Middle Earth
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I have a question. Why did the elves and men never practice religion? They did not perform any religious ceremonies as far as I can tell. Lucas used "the force" in Star Wars. Religion was universal in the epic tales. Why did Tolkien not have a similar theme in his works?
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Morality of Mandos
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I am Prometheus! Aye peck my featherd friends ..peck away ..it was worth it! Mandos...... A Valar who if I'm correct, has a finger on the pulse of fate itself. Is it true that Mandos knows what will pass ? But doesn't speak much !!!!!!!! Seems like a wasted gift to me. Omnipitance and Impotence . Is it mora...
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Testing times
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"Don't eat yellow snow" Sacrifice is a theme which runs through the works. I don't just mean one's life. No, I mean sacrifices such as Aragorns years in the wilderness. or Well..... who else has given up something, as dear as life ?
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Inaction, hesitation, of the Valar
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PUT THE DOG IN THE BASKET! So Numenor slowly becomes estranged from the West. Sauron is taken by Al-Phazron to dwell with his people. Sauron slowly dominates and wins over the people. The largest armada that has ever been built, is assembled over time. During this time the mighty Valar do..............
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Nobody is inflatable
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I WAS BORN IN A CROSS-FIRE HURRICANE ! Never accept the accepted.....poke ...prod..kick ..punch..again and again....always JRR created a structured fantasy..oh but the gaps ... I'm an engineer...for twenty years I have poked and proded. I look at problems in a hard, cold logical way...quickly a...
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Poor Smeagol
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hey ho merry ol fud me lud Poor Smeagol... Gandalf vvas right...Smeagol had a part to play.....if only to end the quest. So if Bilbo vvas meant to find the ring, does that mean that Gollum vvas meant to die. Nasty..bad Valar Using the vveak to fulfill your aims! Did the fates conspire to doom poor old Smea...
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Not so nice Elves
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Me vvith the Vicars vvife...oh my.....! Anyvvay...some have said some things about ; Hovv elves are an inspiration That elves are good and an inspiration to men. Elves are so la de da ......so hoop de da Oh to be an Elf.......to vvander through the tvvighlight..... Blah! Novv Eol vvas an elf...he vva...
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Did the father of darves have free spirit or not ?
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Hi Rumbum pum Ok so Aule got fed up of vvaiting....and made his ovvn children....having not the full appreciation of ERU's plan for the first born.....his efforts vvere...crude...stunted...clumsy So here's the question.......Eru vvasn't pleased and told yer guy Aule to destroy them............
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The Elfstone
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Today I was doing researching on the origins of the Ring of Barahir, and how it had come to Aragorn through the line of Beren through the ages. I found what appears to be a great page on Wikipedia (it was quite an informative article, so hush), which discussed the origins of many of the "artifacts&...
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The Secret Fire
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VVhat about his girlfriend ?
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Hey ho merry ol dol Novv yer man Tom, he has had alot of debate around his merry ol dol. VVhat is Tom ? VVho is Tom ? That's been done. But vvhat about Goldberry...lady of the river me ol merry ol dol and she's dum de dum Any ideas on Goldberry and vvhy she shacked up ith merry ol dol Tom ?
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Tragedy !
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Hi all We spoke of wars and romance..... In the works, what do you think is the most tragic aspect/story/concept..... I love the idea of J.R.R.'s concept of barring Galadriel from the west... The greatest (debatable) of the eldar...barred........brilliant ! That's tragic...but what else...?...
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Host of Easterlings attacking Dale/Erebor
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Is there any reading material that covers this host of Easterlings? Is there any work written by Tolkien himself that confirms that this host was suppose to attack Mirkwood as well?
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Trolls and Swords
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Hi all Is their any clue as to how the trolls, that Bilbo met, came about such powerful items as Sting and Orcrist ?
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The one
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Hey ho merry ol dol....collecting lilyies for.. Ok THE ONE...yip the ring of rings....the big bazooka. The big guy ,Sauron invests much of his innate being into, the ring of rings..... But hy ? ( my key is not orking) Yean yeah yeah corrupt the elves yippidy skippidy......but don't you think he doe...
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Why did the Nazgul hold back ?
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Hey ho Just a quicky At Bree, the Nazgul persuade their agents, or themselves attack a room at the Prancing Pony. Why when it became evident that their prey eluded them, did they back off ? Fat men and rolly polly hobitts aren't a match for big scary Nazgul!
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Tolkien's creation of strong female characters.
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Welll, here is the thread you asked for Bear.
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