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Come here to talk about the places beyond the Western, or even Eastern, shores of Middle-earth. Numenor, Tol Eressea, the Blessed Realm of Valinor, or of the strange Lands East of Middle-earth.

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A place called Morinore (Preview) According to some sources,the men of Numenor discovered a continent called Morinore (although it is a Quenya calque for Mordor it is not Mordor, it should be a place in the region of Australia/ New Zealnd/Papua). What is known about the place? In MERP wikia it is called Southernesse but did not find an...	Lord Damras	2	926	May 26, 2017 by John Wain
Kings of Noldor (Preview) If Feanor was the greatest of all Eldar maker of the Simarills, why was he not made king of the Noldor as opposed to Fingolfin?	Galadriel	25	3254	May 19, 2011 by ArwenLegolas
Immortal animals (Preview) If everything in Valinor was immortal and undying would the plant life and any animal life be immortal as well??? A feeble question but one which puzzles me.	Glorfindel	14	2728	Oct 25, 2010 by Anorlas
Why so small a realm? (Preview) Although Numenor was a land of plenty why did the Valar make Andor, the Land of Gift so small? It it star shaped and would fit inside the realm of Mordor with room to share. Surely the Valar must have known that this would later make the Numenoreans long for more open Lands in Middle-earth once they grew gr...	Glorfindel	9	2289	Jul 30, 2009 by The Secret Fire
Translation Help Needed (Preview) History: A year ago , this week, I found a fiberglass canoe in the dump. It had a 4' crack, mid boat, on both sides that was poorly repaired. Last month I started the restoration and will start the repainting this week or next, depending on the weather. I've been looking for a name for the canoe that de...	Sweeper	8	1638	May 12, 2008 by Galin
tol eressea (Preview) around where ist it???	dwarf guy	8	5679	Jul 22, 2007 by The Might
Fingolfin or Faenor (Preview) Here is something I wonder about alot. For the most part, it seems, everyone agrees that Faenor was the greatest of the elves. And I believe, it actually even says that somewhere. But I do remember reading in the Silmarillion that of Finwe's sons, it said that Fingolfin was the sto...	Turgolfin	17	2540	Feb 20, 2007 by mouth of sauron
Ar-Pharazôn the Fool (Preview) Okay, the title obviously tells all about this question..We know that Ar-Pharazôn was last King of Númenor and that there is a good reason for it. He was the reason that Númenor was losted by bringing Sauron to that island as a "hostage". Now, even though it may someway be consired to be wise move to brin...	Lord Tulkas	38	2158	Oct 24, 2006 by The Might
arrogance and pride (Preview) why were the elves always so prideful and arrogant about everything?	jammi567	21	2509	Oct 23, 2006 by Celethil
Dark land, Lands of sun (Preview) Does ANYONE know of any goings on in the Dark south land or the lands of Sun/Gates of morning? I find Tolkiens silence on these places quite frustrating. I wish there was something written about them apart from them being the place the Numenoreans saild to on there journeys around the world.	Glorfindel	9	2057	Oct 9, 2006 by Gothmog
Unknown places (Preview) Why did the land keep changing from the First Age to the Third Age. Was there anything beyond the Dark Lands?	Galadriel	8	1607	Oct 9, 2006 by Gothmog
Interesting quotes part ll (Preview) Here are some more quotes i found. the reason i find them interesteing is becuase they are to do with my favourite places - the Gates of Moring and Dark land. "Thus it was that because of the Ban of the Valar ... The development of the opening passage&nb...	mouth of sauron	5	1828	Oct 9, 2006 by Gothmog
Fall of Numenor (Preview) Does anyone find the fall of such a wonderful place as Numeor with its fair gardens and laughter, joy and wonder to be a very sad event? Who was the ultimate evil force in bringing this about. Although Sauron had set the Numerons against the Valor it was Morgoth's will that originally made the Num...	Galadriel	12	1706	Oct 8, 2006 by The Might
Interesting quotes (Preview) Following the line of Lord Iluvatars orders I have uncovered a couple of interesting quotes in the Silmarillion. Not much conversation can be given on them but they interest me if nothing else. Feanor to Melkor in Valinor: "Get thee from my gate, thou jail-crow of Mandos!' And with that he shut the d...	mouth of sauron	14	1831	Oct 6, 2006 by Gothmog
Tulkas (Preview) I recently read the Silmarillion again and I noticed that Tulkas joined the other Valar later- he came to them.Where did he come from?Why wasn't he with them from the beginning? and is he any different in power than the other Valar?	Aredhel	17	2057	Oct 2, 2006 by mouth of sauron
Pelori (Preview) Why did the Valar raise the Pelori in the semi circle fasion, excluding them from north and south Valinor. Why not raise them all along the coast so that the whole continent was protected rather than leaving Araman and avarthar (???) all open?	Glorfindel	21	2169	Jun 10, 2006 by Glorfindel
Andilar (Preview) Has anyone heard of Andilar, or know where it lies. I have been listening to a song called Silver Ships of Andilar, which I know must be Tolkien based since it speaks of Valinor though I know not what or where it is about. One theory I have is that it is a song written from the perspective of the Numenoreans t...	Olorin/Gandalf	13	6287	Jun 1, 2006 by The Might
Mithril (Preview) Was there Mithril in Numenor? It says that only Khazad-dum possessd Mithril in Middle-earth but as Numenor is no more part of Middle-earth than Valinor is then would Mithril be found there?	mouth of sauron	7	1746	May 19, 2006 by mouth of sauron

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