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Elf of Rivendell - Rank 2
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Mai omentaina ar suiliŽ

I'm not new to Tolkien or LotR, just here; I've been a member on Planet-Tolkien (before it died), TORC, A-U, the Fanatics Plaza, Council of Elrond, Hall of Fire, and probably a number of forums which died after the movie buzz dried up.

I know a lot about lore-related topics and own about half of HoME, but my main area is with JRRT's languages.

- Tyrhael

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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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Welcome Tyrhael. Al though this site is not as large as some of the ones you have mentioned, you can see by some of the lore topics that it ias very advanced in some areas. Hope you enjoy your stay.


Somethings you may wish to do:


Choose your Ranking Kingdom,


Vote at the polls,


Vote for the site on the Homepage via the links.


Enjoy yourself!



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Utķlie'n† aurŽ!† Aiya† EldaliŽ† ar† AtanatŠri,† utķlie'n† aurŽ!†
Auta† i† lůmŽ!†
AurŽ entuluva!

Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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welcome Tyrhael, hope you enjoy your stay
I'm not so good in languages, so hopefully I'll be able to learn some new things from you.

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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Tyrhael - can you speak Elvish?

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Elf of Rivendell - Rank 2
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I am the Language Mod. at LotRPlaza, and understand the Elvish language(s) to the point where I can read them or attempt to construct prose or poetry in it... but it's hard to actually have "conversational" Elvish. It depends on what you mean when you say "speak Elvish". It can be studied, analyzed, etc., sort of like a dead language. The problem is that Tolkien changed his ideas so many times; he never intended to 'finish' the languages, but kept adjusting them according to changes in his personal lŠmatyŠvŽ; all there is to see really are 'snapshots' of different times in the chronology of his language-making. In addition to the internal evolution of the languages within Middle-earth, there are the (many) external changes that JRRT himself made to the languages. So, yes, I am interested in Tolkien's languages and know much about them, but not even Tolkien could 'speak' (i.e. orally compose sentences instantaneously and carry out a complex conversation) Elvish; he wrote things, and then spent months (and years) changing his translations in every detail. You might want to read Carl Hostetter's "Elvish as She is Spoke" for an essay on how possible it is to learn and speak the Eldarin languages.

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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nice to have someone so gifted as you among us

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The Might wrote:

nice to have someone so gifted as you among us


I agree with TM, you do not meet people so gifted every day
Welcome to TF

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Fundin, Lord of Moria - Rank 5
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Hail Tyrhael, though we have already 'met' in a sense 

Galin



-- Edited by Galin at 14:42, 2006-12-29

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Welcome to TF

Sindarin greeting, no?

Glad to see a linguist among us and I hope to learn as much as I can from you. You wouldnt happen to be Helge from the Ardalambion, bouncing around the net in disguise would you?

Enjoy the forums and share as much as you can. Perhaps you could better explain the Shibboleth of Feanor to me as I am still a bit perplexed and never really found the time to explore it indepth.


Once again welcome, share and enjoy.

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Fundin, Lord of Moria - Rank 5
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Celethil wrote:



Sindarin greeting, no? (...)




If you mean Tryhael's thread title, that's in Neo-Quenya. There's a fairly recent Sindarin Mae govannen (thread title) around here somewhere though.


Galin



-- Edited by Galin at 18:21, 2006-12-29

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Elf of Rivendell - Rank 2
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Galin wrote:


Hail Tyrhael, though we have already 'met' in a sense 

Galin



-- Edited by Galin at 14:42, 2006-12-29




Yes, I was sure that you were the same Galin.

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Welcome Tyrhael to Tolkien Forums. It's a familiar name for some other site. Have fun and enjoy the Forums.

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