Hmmmmm.

This one is actually difficult...

Starting with loyalties, Galadriel and Arwen square off against Eowyn and Rosie.

Eowyn offends Arwen with a suggestion of infidelity by Aragorn and blades are drawn. Galadriel defends her grandaughter and no one takes much notice of Rosie. Eowyn manages a minor cut to Galadriel's side before Arwen cuts her down. As Arwen turns to smile at her grandmother Rosie smacks her in the face with her frying pan and dazes her. Arwen spins and cuts Galadriel in the thigh. Reflexively Galadriel lunges and stabs Arwen in the heart, then her eyes open wide in horror and she drops to her knees to weep. Rosie moves to strike her on the back of the head with the frying pan. Galadriel's eyes burn with anger as she turns and lops the hobbit's head off.

Winner: Galadriel.

TM just had to put Rosie in this. I know how he loves those frying pans.

-- Edited by Celethil at 17:44, 2006-10-24

I think that one on one, Eowyn could beat the other three. But, (I'm under the inpression that this is like the royal rumble) Galadriel and Arwen would team up on the other two.

If it came down to Arwen and Galadriel, who do you think would have won?

Gothmog - Im not sure why you would think that Eowyn would stand a chance against Galadriel.

In other threads it has been stated that Galadriel was the greatest of the Eldar that remained in Middle-Earth in the Third Age. She was present at the first Kinslaying and she fought in the great battles in the First Age.

As for pardon from the Valar, I thought that the Noldor were pardoned after the War of Wrath, but some chose to remain in Middle-Earth. I could be wrong, but I thought Galadriel remained by choice.

Time to start a new thread to investigate...

Next DEATHMATCH...

Beorn, Shelob, and Bard of Dale

I also agree that Bard would probably shoot at Shelob, but miss or inflict little damage and would then be poisioned by her.
considering Beorn's performance in the battle of the Five Armies and his sharp claws, and Shelob's very vulnerable belly, I would say Beorn would win.
Afterwards Bard would wake up after a few hours and Beorn and Bard would go have some cookies at Beorn's house.

Sorry for the timing.

Glaurung, Gothmog(), and Ungoliant.

This is a tough one. Glaurung, Gothmog, and Ungoliant are all so completely evil. Glaurung appears to be the smartest of the three, so I personally think he would talk Gothmog into leading an attack on Ungoliant and while those two are locked in battle he would wait until one of them was wounded. In this case I think it would be Gothmog wounded severely by Ungoliant. Then Glaurung would jump in and attack Ungoliant and after she is defeated he would turn on the wounded Balrog and finish it.

Winner: Glaurung

The funny thing is I agree with TM's scenario as well, though I think Ungoliant is the more powerful of the three.

she was powerful, still, if the fight takes place, let's say around the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, I'd say that Ungoliant had already lost much of the freat power she had gained after drinking the sap of the 2 trees.
if however the battle took place in that time (even though Glaurung wasn't yet created, lol) Ungoliant would have no problem finishing the two.

however, as we saw the balrogs managed to defeat Ungoliant in her most powerful stage ever.
so if we think that 7 (to take the maximum of the 3-7 estimated number) balrogs defeated her at her strongest, I'd say it is plausable that a great dragon and the most powerful balrog would defeat in a weaker stage, fighting together.

we have discussed this already Celethil, and anyone can believe what they wish.
as the thread itself is mainly your own view, I will present the facts of the battle considering my own opinion on the subject of balrog numbers.

or perhaps I shouldn't have made the comparison in the first place...

Where did you get that from MoS?

Here's one...

Faramir, Elladan, Glorfindel, Imrhahil, and Eomer. Let the battle begin.

LoL I agree with most of your reasoning. So who is your winner in the DeathMatch? There can be only one.

Again, who do you think would win?

I beleive that in oder to make these matches more fair the participants all need to be in combat 'one for all' (no teaming up and allaying). In which case in this particular case I second that Glorfindel would win.

hmmm...I did not take into account that Eomer might have his steed near him as well...or that Faramir has his bow and arrows
anyway, good idea, and I guess it is also plausable...
however, if Eomer had a spear while riding, the outcome of his encounter with Glorfindel, might have been different

I thought about something else, more like an explanation for the battle
This is my scenario:
Faramir takes the ring from Frodo and brings it to Minas Tirith
Glorfindel is sent by Elrond to solve this matter, since he knows that if the city would fall, so would the ring.
Imrahil also arrives to Minas Tirith with his troops.
Elladan is travelling with Aragorn and with the rangers.
Eomer is riding with the Muster of Rohan towards Minas Tirith.
Everything happens just like in the book, with the one exception that Faramir and his Men are not sent on a mission to recover Osgiliath, since Denethor was too interested in his new weapon to give such orders.
Frodo, Gollum and Sam are set free by Faramir, who wishes them good luck on their return journey. The 3 however also make their way towards Minas Tirith once the siege of the city ends.
The Siege of Minas Tirith takes place just like in the book, and Sauron's forces are defeated.
Gandalf finds out that Denethor has the ring, and that he intends to use it, and sends Glorfindel and Elladan to take it from the Steward. Denethor tries to attack them and is killed by Glorfindel, who then takes the ring in order to bring it to Gandalf.
Faramir, Eomer and Imrahil arive, and are convinced Glorfindel wants the Ring for himself. Elladan tries to tell them it is not true, but it is too late. The Ring uses its will to turn them against each other, and as in the scenario before Glorfindel is the last standing.
Gandalf realises what has happened and so he defeats Glorfindel, takes the Ring and gives it to Pippin.
Pippin and Merry now go towards Mount Doom, and on their way they meet Frodo, Sam and Gollum. They all pass through Shelob's lair, the only difference is that the Orcs don't sense their presence, since the WK, who had felt a strange presence on the stairs in the original story, is dead.
They also have a much easier travel, because they have more supplies then in the original story, most of them from Merry and Pippin.
The 5 pass near Cirith Ungol, and are able to escape unseen by the tower guards. They make their way directly towards Mount Doom, as Gorgoroth is again empty, and as there is no need to try to make an escape on the Morgai road.
They reach Sammath Naur just as the Battle at the Black Gate starts. Frodo once again refuses to throw the Ring in the fire, and Gollum tries to take the ring, but with some "help" from Merry and Pippin he falls with the ring to his doom.
Sauron is again defeated, and Gandalf comes to their rescue with the Eagles.

Hmm...I might consider starting to write fanfic...

TM - I liked everything in your scenario with one exception. I do not think that Gandalf would be able to stand against Glorfindel if he (Glorfindel) had the One Ring in his possession. Gandalf would have been forced to take off his ring of power before even beginning the fight. And we know that Glorfindel has the skill at arms to take on a powerful Maia.