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Topic: Riddles in the Dark II

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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RE: Riddles in the Dark II
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nope, I'd say it's the other white tree, the one that Aragorn found and planted in Minas Tirith, not the dead one

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You're right, TM!

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hmm...ok, next one

A king of the horesemen
His land was an easter bastion
In battle he led them
for he was King of Rhovanion

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COuld it probably be Eorl the Young?

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the person in the riddle actually had that title...he was King of Rhovanion (or at least he said he was)

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Okay, I researched a bit: Could it possibly be Vidugavia?

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yes, he was indeed the king of rhovanion


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So am I right?

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ah...of course you are

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Quick I am,


Orthanc's key-keeper,


Near Isengard I lived,


I'm against the tree-killer.


 



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treebeard

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Nope, Treebeard isn't quick...

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oh, wait quickbeam had the keys...

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Completely right! Your turn!

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I'm good to eat
Will keep you fed
Am made by Elves
I am their bread

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Lembas Bread I believe.

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that is correct Eowyn
you're next...
I would however like if some other people would participate in this thread besides me and Eowyn...

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^ That goes for me, too!


I guard a city deep below;


In mountains tall I stand;


Not easy to pass,


even by those who know;


 



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That is difficult...There could be many answers.

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The Might wrote:



nope, I'd say it's the other white tree, the one that Aragorn found and planted in Minas Tirith, not the dead one



 


Now, i might be wrong, but didnt Gandalf find the tree seed?



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no actually Gandalf only guided Aragorn
of course Gandalf probably knew of the existence of that seed, but still it was Aragorn who found it and planted it
as for the answer...what was that big eagle called...Thorondor

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Actually no, I'm not speaking of a person or creature.

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It looks like more clues are needed.

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strange
I clearly remember having posted Thorondor as an answer 2 days ago, but it seems someone from the moderation team made it go away...or maybe I just have a bad memory
anyway, Thorondor the eagle.

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Thorondor is wrong... Okay, it really was a bit hard, I tried to change it:


 


I guard a city deep below;


In mountains tall I stand;


Elves and Dwarves helped building me


In Hollin long ago.


Not easily to pass am I,


not even by those who know.


 


 



-- Edited by Eowyn at 10:39, 2006-09-03

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The Gates of Moria?

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Completely right!



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really good riddle Eowyn, I really had no idea...
not so easy to think about the Gates of Moria, though now that I think about it it does seem obvious

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^ Well, thank you! Though it wasn't easy for me either, I nearly found no words for the rhyme!

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Graced by the touch of three ladies hands

Beneath hills I lie beyond mortal lands

By pride and greed my master was devoured,

My brother came to rest in the West-Tower.









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That's a tough one! I don't really have an idea what could be meant by this riddle. I thought of the palantiri, just because of the last two lines, but the first two don't match with that...



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It's not the Palantiri, although you are on the right track.

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Well, could it be the Silmarilli? I believe at least the first three lines fit quite well, though I'm not sure about the last...

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Its not a Silmaril and has very little to do with the Elves.

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ok...so first I though about Anguirel and Anglachel, but it didn't fit because both the fate of Anguirel and Anglachel are unknown
so I thought about Orcrist and Glamdring
well...Orcrist does lie under hills
Thorin was devoured by greed
Glamdring did eventually end up in Valinor (maybe the West-Tower)
and...the ladies...makes me think about the three trolls, but they didn't grace it...

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Hmmmmmm. The West-Tower is not in Valinor, but the hills are. Let me know if you need a hint.

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oh, the white tree

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You are DEFINITELY on the right track, but wrong. You caught the reference to the brother in the West-Tower ( note the caps indicate proper name ). The other brother lies under hills beyond mortal lands.... hmmmmmm

-- Edited by Celethil at 17:46, 2006-09-06

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ok, so its Telperion
because, the White Tree of Gondor did eventually end up in Minas Tirith
and his "brother", Telperion out of which the tree was made, lied in Valinor, after beeing destroyed by Ungoliant

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Minas Tirith is the Tower of Guard and the Tree's master/mistress was not destroyed by pride or greed, nor is there an account of Teleperion being buried beneath a hill.

Your Valinor - Middle-Earth connection is good though. This should make it easier...



Elf of the Spray, my first master's name

All his kin to me laid claim

Graced by the touch of three ladies hands

Beneath hills I lie beyond mortal lands

By pride and greed my last master was devoured,

My brother came to rest in the West-Tower.

-- Edited by Celethil at 18:56, 2006-09-06

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