Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
 

Topic: Sense of direction

Post Info
Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
Status: Offline
Posts: 2161
Date: Jun 9, 2006
Sense of direction

In the Movie:


"The Uruks turn Northeast - they are taking the hobbits to Isengard!" shouts Legolas.


Now this has nothing to do with PJ making a Tolkien knowledge mistake.


If Aragorn, gimli and Legolas have been persuing the Uruk-hai south west from Amon hen, why would the Uruks be turning Northeast if they are going to Isengard when Isengard lies west???



__________________

Utúlie'n  aurë!  Aiya  Eldalië  ar  Atanatári,  utúlie'n  aurë! 
Auta  i  lómë! 
Aurë entuluva!

Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
Status: Offline
Posts: 3118
Date: Jun 9, 2006
ok the part of your post that I don't understand is

Now this has nothing to do with PJ making a Tolkien knowledge mistake.

come on.
the guy says Saruman fell from Orthanc and that the Army of the Dead fought in Minas Tirith
I would never ever associare PJ to anything of lore.

now the answers could be:
1. PJ made a mistake, among many others or
2. the Orcs had to turn to North East to perhaps come to the road towards to Isengard, perhaps turned north-east to the shallows of a river and then towards Isengard
anyway the idea is you mustn't think that Isengard ever was north-east in a direct line

__________________
Honor, Freedom, Fatherland
Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
Status: Offline
Posts: 2372
Date: Jun 10, 2006

Its clear that PJ was doing an inaccuracy about Tolkien becuase obviously PJ new Isengard lied west and I would imagine that he knows North east south west.


The only thing I can think of is that there was some obsticle that prevented them going west so they had to go round it, thus changing there direction. But to change it by that much is quite significant - they are almost going te opposite way.



__________________
My Master Sauron the Great bids thee Welcome....
Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
Status: Offline
Posts: 3118
Date: Jun 10, 2006
just as I said, an obstacle in their way, the problem is there were no big obstacles
for example the shallows of the Entwade were NW, and from there onwards there were no more rivers to cross

__________________
Honor, Freedom, Fatherland
Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
Status: Offline
Posts: 2161
Date: Jun 10, 2006
Yes but to go almost the complete opposite way??? To get into an obstacle of that proportion it would have been easier to miss it altogether - they did not have to cross the Anduin as they captured the hobbits on Amon hen - the west bank.

__________________

Utúlie'n  aurë!  Aiya  Eldalië  ar  Atanatári,  utúlie'n  aurë! 
Auta  i  lómë! 
Aurë entuluva!

Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
Status: Offline
Posts: 3118
Date: Jun 10, 2006
yes, that is what I meant as well
PJ made another mistake
you however stated in your post you don't think he did a mistake
maybe you changed your mind...

__________________
Honor, Freedom, Fatherland
Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
Status: Offline
Posts: 2372
Date: Jun 10, 2006
I think he was refering to that there must be some other reason. However maybe PJ meant Northwest not northeast?

__________________
My Master Sauron the Great bids thee Welcome....
Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
Status: Offline
Posts: 3118
Date: Jun 10, 2006
I don't know about that...
I doubt such a mistake is made at such big movies

__________________
Honor, Freedom, Fatherland
Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
Status: Offline
Posts: 2372
Date: Jun 10, 2006
My point exactly. I doubt it was a PJ mistake there must be some other meaning behind it...

__________________
My Master Sauron the Great bids thee Welcome....
Elves of the Third Age - Rank 1
Status: Offline
Posts: 21
Date: May 2, 2007
                                     _________
                                    [ Amon hen ]   { R                             N
                                                            {                            /   \
_______     (                           )                {  I                  W       E
            \      ( Fangorn Forest _)                   {                      \   /
Isengard )       (                     )                        {  V                 S
_______/          --------------                            {
                                                                          {
                                                                            { E
                                                                              {
                         R  O  H  A  N                                {
                                                                                    {  R
                                                                                        {
                                                                                    __      {
  / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \   __/    \__
         M       O      U      N     T     A     I      N     S     (             )
                                                                             (               )
                                                                            ( Minas Tirith)


Map for all to see...
Note: not to scale at all!!
Just thought it would help...

~Prince of Mirkwood
                                                                                         


__________________
"Why do you turn your head and look back, when the future is at your front." ~ Nic Crouse
Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
Status: Offline
Posts: 2161
Date: May 2, 2007
That is some map you got there Prince of Mirkwood!

__________________

Utúlie'n  aurë!  Aiya  Eldalië  ar  Atanatári,  utúlie'n  aurë! 
Auta  i  lómë! 
Aurë entuluva!

Elves of the Third Age - Rank 1
Status: Offline
Posts: 21
Date: May 3, 2007
thanks, it kinda got screwed-up when i hit submit...

~Prince of Mirkwood

__________________
"Why do you turn your head and look back, when the future is at your front." ~ Nic Crouse
 
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.



Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse
Powered by ActiveBoard