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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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Sense of direction

In the Movie:


"The Uruks turn Northeast - they are taking the hobbits to Isengard!" shouts Legolas.


Now this has nothing to do with PJ making a Tolkien knowledge mistake.


If Aragorn, gimli and Legolas have been persuing the Uruk-hai south west from Amon hen, why would the Uruks be turning Northeast if they are going to Isengard when Isengard lies west???



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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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ok the part of your post that I don't understand is

Now this has nothing to do with PJ making a Tolkien knowledge mistake.

come on.
the guy says Saruman fell from Orthanc and that the Army of the Dead fought in Minas Tirith
I would never ever associare PJ to anything of lore.

now the answers could be:
1. PJ made a mistake, among many others or
2. the Orcs had to turn to North East to perhaps come to the road towards to Isengard, perhaps turned north-east to the shallows of a river and then towards Isengard
anyway the idea is you mustn't think that Isengard ever was north-east in a direct line

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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Its clear that PJ was doing an inaccuracy about Tolkien becuase obviously PJ new Isengard lied west and I would imagine that he knows North east south west.


The only thing I can think of is that there was some obsticle that prevented them going west so they had to go round it, thus changing there direction. But to change it by that much is quite significant - they are almost going te opposite way.



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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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just as I said, an obstacle in their way, the problem is there were no big obstacles
for example the shallows of the Entwade were NW, and from there onwards there were no more rivers to cross

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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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Yes but to go almost the complete opposite way??? To get into an obstacle of that proportion it would have been easier to miss it altogether - they did not have to cross the Anduin as they captured the hobbits on Amon hen - the west bank.

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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yes, that is what I meant as well
PJ made another mistake
you however stated in your post you don't think he did a mistake
maybe you changed your mind...

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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I think he was refering to that there must be some other reason. However maybe PJ meant Northwest not northeast?

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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I don't know about that...
I doubt such a mistake is made at such big movies

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My point exactly. I doubt it was a PJ mistake there must be some other meaning behind it...

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                                     _________
                                    [ Amon hen ]   { R                             N
                                                            {                            /   \
_______     (                           )                {  I                  W       E
            \      ( Fangorn Forest _)                   {                      \   /
Isengard )       (                     )                        {  V                 S
_______/          --------------                            {
                                                                          {
                                                                            { E
                                                                              {
                         R  O  H  A  N                                {
                                                                                    {  R
                                                                                        {
                                                                                    __      {
  / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \   __/    \__
         M       O      U      N     T     A     I      N     S     (             )
                                                                             (               )
                                                                            ( Minas Tirith)


Map for all to see...
Note: not to scale at all!!
Just thought it would help...

~Prince of Mirkwood
                                                                                         


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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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That is some map you got there Prince of Mirkwood!

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thanks, it kinda got screwed-up when i hit submit...

~Prince of Mirkwood

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