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Elves of the Third Age - Rank 1
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Narsil/Anduril

In the book aragorn possesses narsil in its broken form, as he shows it to the hobbits during their encounter with each other in the prancing pony, then the blade is repaired when the fate of the ring, is being decided in rivendale. Whereas in the film aragorn does not recieve Anduril until they are waiting to go to war in the return of the king.
I was wondering whether you think that by peter jackson delaying the reforging and giving anduril to aragorn. It somehow changed the course of events or from some thing unseen from happening.

p.s. Was anduril two handed or one handed, because in the two towers tolkein writes that aragorn used the sword with a shield, but in the film it is shown as being a two-handed sword, so what are your views on this.

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 Also, in the film i believe the sword is broken in about four or five pieces. but actually, it was only broken in two.


A poem of the sword writen in Gandalfs letter that was sent to Frodo.


From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.                                                                             



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I agree, and i think that Jackson just put it two handed, maybe because he wanted to show the fact that Aragorn is a great fighter

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 Possibly, because a two-handed claymore is a seriously heavy sword. I thought Aragorn must be one strong dude when i saw him sprinting with a two-hander

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ya, he was about 80 (i dont know if thats right) but he lived to over 200 so he would be about 30-40 years old (in our sort of age comparison) so he probably was quite strong. and healthy

-- Edited by Great tomato at 17:31, 2006-05-02

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We all know about all the hanges in the movie. This one wasn't of huge importance, but it is yet another unneeded change made in the story. the importance of Anduril is shown only for rallying the Host of the Dead...btw, why do the Host of the Dead agree to follow Aragorn in the mountain and not at Erech?
Yet another change. There are so many things changed that you can talk day and night...but I dunnow why PJ did that.

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The Might wrote:


The importance of Anduril is shown only for rallying the Host of the Dead...but I dunnow why PJ did that.


You just answered your own question The Might. PJ wanted to show Andurils importance in gaining the alligence of the Dead.



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well, you didn't understand what I wanted to say.
I did indeed mean that in the movie Anduril had, just like in the book a big importance in rallying the Host of the Dead.
And also, you didn't quote all I said.
"Yet another change. There are so many things changed that you can talk day and night...but I dunnow why PJ did that."
The words "I dunnow why PJ did that reffer to the changes he made, and not to Anduril.

No, and actually this is more a rethoric question, cause only PJ could really answer it.
The only question I asked is also why in the movie the Host of the Dead joins Aragorn inside the mountain, and not at the stone of Erech as in the book.

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A very small point - The Dead agreed to join Aragorn outside the mountain in the film, not inside.

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I thought he summoned them to come and help him and promised them to free them from the curse inside the mountain.#
or is it the extended thingy which I only saw once?

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Extended version. The mountain collapses before we hear if the Kign of the Dead will follow Aragorn. When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli escape to the exit they see the Corsairs from Umbar sailing up Anduin from the south, destroying as they go. Then the King of the Dead comes out of the mountain and says - 'We fight'.

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oh I forgot that thing...
but I remember the totally stupid idea that they saw Pelargir in the distance just after they got out of the mountain...

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Take it from me, the movie version of Anduril is one heavy piece of steel. I know, I own one. It's a beautiful piece of workmanship, and it weighs nearly 20 pounds. I've swung it one handed, and it takes alot of strength in the wrist, and forearm.


https://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m138/dumanyu2/Andurilupright.jpg


The link above is for those who want to see a picture of it.



-- Edited by Anduril at 01:16, 2006-09-13

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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it's nice I guess, but I would never buy any LOTR sword...

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LoL Your choice. Personally Im interested in getting a replica of Glamdring and Hadhafang.

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Celethil wrote:


LoL Your choice. Personally Im interested in getting a replica of Glamdring and Hadhafang.



Glamdring is my next acquisition.


Might: Each to his/her own.



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I would recommend getting the helms of Sauron and the Witcking, before the swaords.

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