Just wanted to say hi. Not really sure how to begin. I arrived at the introduction page and assumed that this was the only way to start. I have browsed many of the interesting topics and can't wait to jump aboard and discuss in detail some of these topics as I have plenty of questions about J.R.R. Tolkien's works. I'm an avid reader of the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. In fact, I have read them from cover to cover in turn, meaning: Once I've finished the Hobbit I go right to reading LOTR then upon finishing LOTR, its back to the hobbit...it's been a vicious cycle like this for about 10 yrs.
I have also read The Children of Hurin and was awed by it. Also read The Simarillion but haven't been able to secure a copy of it for sometime. Ever since I began reading LOTR I have found myself digging for clues for answers of the marvellously vague details of Tokien's creation. There are plenty of questions that have arisen from these detailed and deep rooted stories. In short; I don't believe I have enough knowledge about his books to call myself a Tolkien scholar, but reasearching some of the mysteries of Tolkien's Middle Earth and Its histories is too much of a temptation to pass up, so I guess I can call myself big fan.
With that I say Well Met! and I can't wait to chat with members and guests of this site.
You are welcome on our humble Tolkien site Jaid! Hopefully you'll find some of the older discussions of interest, plus there are a few trivia-style games that are frequently used.
Jaidoprism7, Welcome! Jump in anywhere ... and no need to worry ... it sounds like you are pretty well read. Can't wait to hear your opinions and swap posts about Tolkien; his characters and his world! I am just a member here but if I can help in any way try posting, or private message. or our chatbox. Again you are very welcome. Bear an Elf-Friend
PS: What is your favorite book or Tolkien character?
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Thanks for the warm welcome. To answer your question about my favorite book; it would probably be The Children of Hurin and the main character within- Turin Turambar. I think its a perfectly miserable story. The fact that the main character lives such a tragic life and it seems that all his plans and intentions fall to misfortune. Tolkien wasn't able to finish the story before his death so his son Christopher compiled his father's notes and published it. It's got all the depth and history of LOTR and Dragons! Have you read it?
This book in particular raised a question with me. Turin has a sister Nienor, who gets bewitched by the dragon Glaurung and and forgets who she is. Don't want to spoil it but she ends up casting herself into the river and is presumed dead. Her body was never found.
This led me to believe that she might be lady goldberry from LOTR! Tom Bombadil says he found her in the river of course this was before the world changed and most of the lands that this story takes place in sink beneath the sea. Stuff like that always keeps me guessing! Kind of a stretch I know but provoking yes?
Do you get into the Role playing games on this site? Hope to bump into you in a chat room or forum soon.
Jaidoprism7, You are welcome!!! I love "The Children of Hurin". It is such a deep tragedy and so twisted with the brother/sister incest thing. Kind of hard to believe this is by the same author who wrote "The Hobbit".
I like your projection of Nienor as Lady Goldberry. What wonderful hypothetical twist ... There is an interesting article written by scholar Katherine Hesser about "Goldberry" in the "J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia"( J.R.R. Tolkien Encyclopedia~ Scholarship and Critical Assessment, Michael D.C. Drout as editor, published by Routledge, Taylor & Francis Group,2007)where Hesser discusses both domestic and divine elements of the character. She closes her article by comparing Goldberry to several feminine characters in The Lord of The Rings then a final sentence; "Goldberry provides a feminine figure who is pure, content, significant to the world around her. and wise."(ibid, pgs 244-246)
There have been some role playing games here ... but to be honest the last one is badly stalled due to one player dragging his feet and not doing his part (that person is me) But there are others who love to role play ... check out the thread "Quest for Doriath."
I am a fan of The Lord of The Rings and it is really hard to pick my favorite character ... I love the earthy simple nobility of Samwise Gamgee and lately I have been digging and searching for more on the classical and archetypal images of Faramir.
Truth is I like them all ... just finished reading "The Hobbit" to a group of little ones at our library. I'm starting "The Fellowship of the Rings" tomorrow ... I love reading Tolkien's work (again and again)
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Carry on Bear. Your providing a marvelous service to the community. You have proven well established in the writings of Professor Tolkien and various subsequent studies. I dig it! You are the Lore Keeper I strive to be. In my brief searches around the forums of this site I've noticed that you have been around for sometime. It's good to meet a staple such as yourself. I look forward to hearing more of your exploits and hope I may tap your brain in the future.
Question: What's the best way to get an E-mail alert if I'm responded to? I'm not only new to this site and chat rooms in general, but also to this new fan dangled technology, in fact, this is my first PC since 1994 (not to date myself).
Well met Bilbo Baggins! Thanks for the warm welcome. It's an extreme honor to hear from such an auspicious and renowned person such as yourself. Forgive me for my late response. I am a noob technologically and have some catching up to do. I will work out the bugs and shake off the cobwebs. Until then Well met! I hope I see you around the forums.
At the bottom of the reply box, below the "Show Preview" and "Hide Preview" boxes is a small box with the caption; " Email me whenever there is a new post to this topic".
Just check it and presto ~ any posted activity will trigger your E~mail ...
I just keep logging on and checking the recent activity posted below the chat box.
Hope this helps.
Thank you for the kind affirmations. I do enjoy this forum very much ... but folks like mouth of sauron, Glorfindel 1235, Arwen Legolas, Mr. Baggins, Galin, and Kyranger (to name a few), are amazing wells of knowledge and fun. And every single one of them can and will respond warmly to your questions and comments.
The computer tech stuff seems to come with practice and asking questions as you are doing.
I have a hunch you will be a "lore-master" yourself before too long.
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Jaidoprism - welcome. Apart from the advice Bear has given, perhaps you may also wish to choose a Kingdom to belong to, the link of which can be found near the top of the forum.
A kingdom to belong to...that sounds ideal. I like the mode of this site so far. Everyone seems to be well rooted in Tolkien knowledge. To paraphrase the irishman in "Braveheart" when asked if he was mad: "Well, I've come to the right place then eh?"
Jaidoprism7, To choose a kingdom click on the "Site Navigation" heading and then click on the "Ranking Kingdoms" heading ... scroll down a ways and you will be introduced to several kingdoms and their levels ... there are quite a few choices ...
Mad Irishman? There can be no such thing! (sic) We here across the water may defer to the Valar ... if they treat their animals well!!!
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This is an extreme honor to hear such a lucky like you and famous people. Forgive me for my late response. I am a white technology, and have some catching up to do. I will work hard to insects, and get rid of cobwebs.
Technically I am not supposed to post here because I joined much later than you (and am in no position to welcome you). But that's where you posted your hypothesis that Goldberry is Nienor. I read it when I was fixing to introduce myself - to see how people do it. Then I forgot where I have seen it and couldn't find it, until I finally did a search...
So I was amazed that someone would come up with something that original. Evidence is of course lacking but the hypothesis itself is attractive. Tom Bombadil is in all possible ways unlike Turin, and wouldn't she want just that, should she indeed have undergone such a transformation?
I think we might have to start a new thread for this one. A speculation thread, because I have theories galore when it comes to the plausible, unanswered things in Tolkien's writings. Look for it soon because I gotta get some of these things off my chest and I would like to hear more about your Arkenstone theory.
Here's a couple for example:
1. The Blue Wizards
2. The travels of Glamdring and Orcrist
3. Lady Goldberry
4. The Dying man at the Paths of the Dead
Of course with topics like these its hard to tread the fine line between "purest research" and "fan-fic" but that's what I find "speculation" to be. Should be harmless fun. I just got to find a good starting point for this thread so that everyone could freely participate without it being too One-sided on my part.
Me too! I really look forward to your speculations on these topics ...
I would love to read these theories. I might be inspired to come up with one myself.
Lorelline and Jaido please continue ... I suggest placing it in The Utterly Miscellaneous category under the title Speculation Theories or Tolkien Might-Have - Been Theory. Great ideas ! You folks deserve kudos!
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