Well, I believe he has weaknesses just like any other Elf...it is for example stated in one of the Letters, #256 I believe, that had he, or Galadriel, claimed the Ring, they would have raised an army large enough to defeat Sauron, and would then have rules over Middle-earth themselves. Unlike Galadriel, who is also put hard to the test by Frodo offering her the Ring, Elrond doesn't seem to desire the Ring as much. He could have claimed it while taking care of Frodo in Rivendell, but no mention of his need for possessing it is ever mentioned, showing he had a strong character and would probably be little weak to worldly temptations. One weakness shown in LotR however is his love for Arwen and his fear of losing her if she chooses to remain in Middle-earth and live a mortal life.
That is not as bad as I thought. But only 2 weaknesses? There have got to be more then that? What about Aragorn? In a way he did everything to keep him away from Rivendell, send him into the wilderness to "Prove" himself. What could that be called?
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I think Elrond was a bit too much of a thinker, rather than a doer. He seems to just sit in his house at times of crisis and send some Elves to help. I think the Last Alliance was the only major battle he fought in, with the possible exception of the War of Wrath (but I think he was too young then).
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You could call Elrond argumentative - or an imposing and probably intimidating truth-seeker. Even a powerful attribute can be a weakness, depending on perspective and circumstance. Fear of the one ring being in his realm any length of time seems perfectly rational, however; his people would have been in real mortal danger. I'd say that argument stemmed rather from understanding, both of the ring's true master and his own powers of resistance, than fear.
Is it me or did Elrond get his foresight a bit wrong?
"Ere long now," Gandalf was saying, "The Forest will grow somewhat more wholesome. The North will be freed from that horror for many long years, I hope. Yet I wish he were banished from the world!" "It would be well indeed," said Elrond; "but I fear that will not come about in this age of the world, or for many after."
But as we know Sauron is vanquished at the end of that Age. Why would Elrond say he wouldn't be for many ages?
Elrond didn't put lot faith to men like Might already said and also that other thing Might said can very easily be true. Remember that Olorin (Gandalf) was a messenger of Manwe and he belonged to Manwe's 'house' while Elrond was 'just' a half-elf. Elrond wasn't even counted as wisest elf of M-E:
'For the Lord of the Galadhrim is accounted the wisest of the Elves of Middle-earth, and a giver of gifts beyond the power of kings.'LotR
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I thought Galadriel was the wisest of the Elves of Middle-earth? Greatest of the Noldor, save Feanor, who learned much knowledge of Middle-earth from Melian in the Elder Days.
Well i quess every elf wanted to give that 'title' to someone else than him or herself. That is Galadriel's comment that i posted. In LotR, Elrond is accounted as a 'wisest in lore' but that doesn't mean that his wiseness stopped there. Like everywhere in the world, imaginative or real life, wiseness comes in many forms and it's unfair thing to put people in order saying that someone is more wiser than other one in some area.
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Now this is just a theory with no evidents (yet since i haven't searched) but could Elrond be referred as a wisest just based on his backround? Celly and Galadriel were 'full elves' and Elrond, even acting like elf had also heritage from the race of men in his vains..so logically that would made him wiser about both elves and men.
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What indications? Since Celeborn was in Doriath when Galadriel came in 52 FA, it is clear he had been dwelling in Beleriand for some time. And Elrond was born in 532 FA. Need any more indications?
But Galadriel had lived many years during the time of the Two Tree's. We don't know how long Celeborn was in Beleriand for. I am confused as to how this says who was older.
Galadriel was the most powerful of the elves; indeed her "commanding stature" was compared with that of Feanor, even before she became keeper of one of the rings of power. Her choices were made out of pride and desire to rule her own realm however, and it is said that not until she passed the last test and refused the one ring that her wisdom was full grown (Unfinished Tales). Not a lot is known of Celeborn except for his part in the wars with Sauron in the second age. There are conflicting accounts of their histories, but both spent an age of the world living with Melian, and that has to count for something.
By the third age these three surpassed all others in lore and wisdom, at least among the children of Illuvatar, by all accounts. Who made the wisdom yardstick, and increments of exactly what brands of wisdom it measured, I really can't say...
I think Lord Tulkas has a good point, in that Elrond might not have been a full match for the Lord and Lady of the Wood in knowledge or skills in some areas, but he might have been well ahead in some others. His was a quieter nature than the willful Galadriel's, and probably everyone would prefer to stay home and read, but Elrond saw his share of the wars. He led the defense of Eregion against Sauron in the second age, became Gil-Galad's vice regent in the north shortly after, and had there been need of a high kingship after Gil-Galad's fall I believe it would have logically come to Elrond, the last of the house of Fingolfin. Maybe being an age younger doesn't count for all that much if you're several thousand years old and have those kinds of credentials.
