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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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The words of Hurin and Morgoth

Why did not Melkor have Hurin tortured to reveal to him the hidden realm of Gondolin. Why have him strapped to a chair?



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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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Morgoth wanted Hurin to look out over the lands where his kin dwelt and watch that land get invaded and burnt by the servants of Morgoth. This would be torture enough, so that Hurin would eventually submit and tell Morgoth what he wished to know.

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Yeah Glor has a point there. Húrin was so brave that he insulted Morgoth and therefore Morgoth put that curse on his and his kin and made Húrin to "see" by Morgoth's eyes how that curse was working among them>Túrin.

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"Now the thought of Morgoth dwelt ever upon Turgon; for Turgon had escaped him, of all his foes that one whom he most desired to take or destroy. [...] Therefore Húrin was brought before Morgoth, for Morgoth knew that he had the friendship of the King of Gondolin; but Húrin defied him, and mocked him." (The Silmarillion, Of The Fifth Battle)


From this quote, we can see that Morgoth did try and pry the information out of Húrin, but it seems as though Húrin's resoluteness was greater than Morgoth's techniques. Morgoth could have probably questioned him further as well, but I think that his pride was too great to suffer the insults that Húrin threw at him and so he wanted to punish Húrin before anything else.



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And I always thought what Hurin underwent was worse than any sort of torture. And a cunning plan of Morgoth to let him go. I mean, not only did he reveal Gondolin, he also brought the Nauglamir to Doriath which lead to its ruin! Morgoth couldn't have wished for anything else!

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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Not entirely true, Morgoth could have wished that Hurin would be insane enough to jump in a boat, sail to Aman and stab Manwe in the back with a spoon in the Ring of Doom council...But realistically he could not have wished for much more as you say Andu..

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Why a spoon? Why not a knife or even a fork?

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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If you re-read my post again you will realise it was meant to be s stupid remark and thus, spoon was more apt than a knife or fork.

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Soldier of the East - Rank 4
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I know that Mouth of Sauron. If you re-read my post you will see I was also being stupid.

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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Crossed wires...

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That was weird.


But also kewl.


 


PS, Sprinting.



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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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ok, let's get back on topic
so if anyone has some more unanswered questions on this topic ask them, and let's please stop SPAMMING
so unless you have something to say on topic, please don't post a reply

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