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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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What was the water called.

What was the spance of water that Bilbo kept refering to Gandalf in the Hobbit. He keeps saying 'Across the water'.

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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Some lake in the south farthing i suppose. Not sure of its actual name though? This is one for the geography masters.

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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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No-one else?

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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"who lived across The Water, the small river that ran at the foot of The Hill"
the name of the river was "The Water"

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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The actualy name of the river was 'The Water'? I thought that was just the Hobbits calling it by what it literally is, not the actual name of the River.

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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yes, it isn't that hard to name it like that
that water was indeed called The Water

just like the old forest near Buckland was called the Old Forest.

Hobbits used such simple names very often

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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I suppose it would have had a different name during the reign of Arnor though? Hobbits don't come around until much later in the Third age, thus I would then assume that once the settled in the Shire they were start naming things anew.

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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listen, I told you all I could
it is a really small detail that Tolkien actually even mentionted such a small river
I mean...the Water isn't incredibly big and of no great importance during the history of Arnor
also, remember that that area was not inhabited by people as it was empty as the Hobbits came
anyway, I personally have found no other name for it

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Fundin, Lord of Moria - Rank 5
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In Tolkien's index...



'The Shire-water, full name of stream running down from the North (through Hobbiton and Bywater) and then along the line of the Road to the Brandywine which it joined just above the Bridge' JRRT


'Shire-water' goes well enough with the name of the 'Brandywine', Branda-nîn 'Border-water'.



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Adding a bit for interest maybe: the river names Axe, Exe, Esk and Usk are all derived from the British word isca meaning 'water'. Source Reaney, P. H. The Origins of English Place­Names.



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