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Topic: "When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

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Elf of Beleriand - Rank 2
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"When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men


Dwelling in their houses


 


I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men


With their hands in dough


 


I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men


Accompanied by eagle-eyed mothers


 


I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men


Ever so clad in clothing


 


I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men


With their frail hearts broken


 


I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men


Withering into death with age.



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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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RE: When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men

An interesting read there Elvish avantgaurdian. However I fail to see the relation to Tolkien, unless its something he wrote?



-- Edited by mouthofsauron111 at 09:03, 2006-03-27

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Elf of Beleriand - Rank 2
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RE: "When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

I wrote this, from an elvish point of view. I tried to compose something about a vagrant Elf wandering the lands of Men. Was it Dor-lomin I chose? "When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men" is his song. I might elaborate soon.


 


Bitter is my destiny


Come and make me happy


Join me here


                  -- by my fire


Share my supplies of ale.


 


Frost in my soul, 'pon my eyes dale


Dreadful existence


Existence dire


 



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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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Good poem Elvish avantguardian.
Actually your poem has given me a little inspiration so here is a short poem I just made, on the same topic as yours.

"Why is it..."

Why is it
That When I look thither
I see them getting old,
Older, and wither...

Why is it
That I've found no heart
That could love me
Somewhere in the dark...

Why is it
That all things pass,
All go away,
And I'm the only one to last...

Why is it
That I walk alone,
Alone in this land,
An empty soul...


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Elf of Beleriand - Rank 2
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You haven't asked for my opinion, but I like this. Its rhythm and mood correspond to mine.


These are not the best things I've written.


Whenever I need sufferance to inspire me, I do not have to look far. Wait, I say look as if sorrow is not inveterate within me!


I might thank her for emotion.



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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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no problem, please give me your opinion anytime you want
but the sorrow part is a little too much for me
I am actually a very happy and always optimistic person, though not always.
so usually I use more unhappy memories if I want to write something a little more sad.

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'Tis true, that human suffering is mostly [if not entirely] p r o d u c e d by its subject, whereby not imposed... Too much indeed, for I would not know sorrow if there weren't for joy. And I am joyful at the sight of lindens and tall poplars and listening to the sound of wind whispering in the leaves.

Eternal epic potentials. But the epic is, too, merely inside me.

We should open a philosophical discussion and quote German classical idealists like Schelling of Fichte. They knew such corelations well.

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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RE: "When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

hehehe
if you think I have any idea about German literature you are wrong...
cause I am actually 100% Romanian...only living in Germany...
plus...I think I get more joyful when eating a pizza...

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RE: "When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

You lost me there Avantguardian. Your too good at English. You and Tolkien could have conversed like a house on fire!

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Elf of Beleriand - Rank 2
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Oh, it would depress me if my meditations were clouded by the barrier of languages. But the note on Tolkien was rather flattering.

Romanian? Does your language have cases?

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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cases? yes of course it does, we are not that far back...
no, it is because romanian comes mainly from latin, so most cases are like in latin.
we have nominative, accusative, genitive, dative and vocative.

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Here is another poem, I just want to ask everyone if it is any good.


Beginnings and Ends


 


What has a start will have an end


Once molten rocks shall crumble to sand


Burnt into glass with kraftsman's skill


And broken once more into dust still


 


Still as in - not moving. Was it obvious?



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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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I really liked it.
but one little maybe remark, perhaps you could use will turn into instead of crumble to in order to keep the rhythm of the poem
I dunno I might be wrong, but it sounds better to me.

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RE: "When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

"Crumble" is better because of the meaning, it gives the quality to "turn into". It might sound better to include the phrasal verb, but rhythm is the matter of syllables, and if you count them, you will see that "turn into" has three, just as "crumble to". I am reluctant to polish the lyrics that came straight out of me. To this I am willing to sacrifice much.



-- Edited by The One at 09:28, 2006-05-26

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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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RE: "When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

rhythm is the matter of syllables with or without an accent.
And usually the rhythm should be accent/no accent/accent/no accent, like alternating the accentuated and non-accentuated syllables.
I personally also like crumble more...I dunno...
But of course, it is your own choice of words.

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Hmm, it is not that I have studied my versification too well, but I follow my sense of music. If I did study it, however, my poetry would be more consistent.


Hey, "crumble to" and "turn into" have similar accentuation. ^ - -and ^^-. Or is it -^-?



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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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hmm...I dunno
I don't usually speak english so I dunno exactly

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You know, I conclude that it is mere length that endows syllable with rhythmic potentials. Accent has its quan****y and quality, but the latter is irrelevant in versification. In this light, "turn into" is more static and bulky. But let us close this discussion until someone else posts a poem to analyse.



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Witchking of Angmar - Rank 10
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funny
you can't use the letters
t i t like this cause they make a bad word
hmm...just wondering
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Elf of Beleriand - Rank 2
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Hmm, I'd better not go repe****ious with that!

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"When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

Interesting discussion. But shouldn't this be in the FanFiction Forum? I stumbled upon this think it was a discussion about Mortality. I was born and raised in Germany, but never had a great education.

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Elf of Beleriand - Rank 2
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RE: "When I dislike seeing mortal daughters of Men"

I feel responsible for the alleged inconsistency in category, but this thread has already been moved hither. I would approve of yet another corresponding removal, since there is a nice relaxed atmosphere to this discussion and perhaps it could be developed. I would rather open another similar thread elsewhere for the purposes of diversity.

But then we could move some other threads as well.. I shall not interfere.

Posts so old.. I am glad to have seen them again.

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