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Topic: valaraukar/balrogs

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Dwarves - Rank 1
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valaraukar/balrogs

in sil. i think it says the balrogs are maiar. if they are, are they inferior or equal to saouron since he, also is a maia

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Samwise Gamgee - rank 9
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Sauron was Morgoth's greatest servant. It can be disputed that Gothmog Lord of Balrogs was an equal to him. If you mean which was better in terms of a fight I would probably say a Balrog but if you mean which was more powerful in terms of 'higher in rank' of the Ainur then Sauron would surpass a Balrog, with the possible exception of Gothmog.

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In Tolkien's earlier writings Balrogs had much less power, but compensated this in numbers.
In time however their number reduced to a final sum of 3-7, on the other hand their power definitely increased.
About your question, Sauron is the greatest servant of Melkor, and second in command, however it is said that Gothmog had hardly less power then Sauron, so the differences weren't that big.

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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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I wonder if Gothmog was equal to Sauron or inferior? I seem to recollect a quote naming them equals but then seeing others suggesting Sauron was superior.

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Tom Bombadil
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Give me a Balrog any day. Sauron is a deciever. Balrogs are more fighters and are not as political as Sauron. They are cunning in a different but predictable way.

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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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I would rather face Sauron in battle than a Balrog though. At least there is something to hit. With a Balrog the outer layer is just flame and shdow. It makes you wonder how Glorfindel managed to get so close to the Balrogs body to stab him with his Helmet.

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Tom Bombadil
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Glorfindel I like your signature. But why have you chosen Fingon's cry at the Nirnaeth Arnoediad? Do tell us Which "Day" has come?

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Anarion, Son of Elendil - rank 8
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It just looks better than plain English.

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Tom Bombadil
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I am going to get an Elvish siggy myself today since I am an Elf and have not added one to my profile.

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